Martial Arts?

13 Responses to Martial Arts?

1. jasonjas | October 24, 2009 at 11:39 pm |

   You can train in all of them… if you couldn’t cross-train then it’d be a worthless martial arts system since most masters usually know more than one form or technique.

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2. Confused musican | October 25, 2009 at 12:34 am |

   um, I am sure t hey would conflict a Bit Karate is all your power in one blow type or deal. Tai Chi is exact muscle movements. SO those would be ok but Kung-fu is similar to Tai Chi in a small aspect but for Karate it shall be way off since you would use multiple stikes quickly never heard of the last one

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3. Aaron | October 25, 2009 at 1:36 am |

   I am a black belt in Karate but i am also learning tae kwon do. I have also studied kung fu, kickboxing and judo so i don’t know why you can’t lear them all.

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4. Dogz La oWNza;'s | October 25, 2009 at 2:41 am |

   well i know for a fact karate can go with tai kwan do (duno how to spell it) karate is is mainly getting outta grapples and tai kwan do is quick force

   but a trained knife dude can fuck em all up knife speed force power blood lose different attack types grapple and you can get stabbed like shit (knife ftw)

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5. Jim | October 25, 2009 at 3:35 am |

   Do them all. You will learn different styles and techniques, and it could be difficult to remember them all if you take too many at once, but the only thing that might conflict is a schedule of classes. I have a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, which I strongly recommend (for self defense), and also in Kempo Karate (Fighting Technique and Style), and Judo (A very mechanical fighting style comparable to a mix of wrestling and karate); I would reccomend all of these and suggest taking as many as you can keep up with. They are hard work but you will be in amazing shape and you learn valuable technique and discipline. Good Luck!

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6. marleyfu | October 25, 2009 at 4:37 am |

   At our karate dojo (combining karate, judo, kenpo), students must master a kata from another style as part of the black belt test. In general, people don’t cross train at first because it takes years to fully understand the moves and attitude of a particular style.

   That said, look for a style that incorporates techniques form several different Martial arts. Those schools exist and give a nice cross section of the best of each style.

   Talk to people. Become educated on how the different schools work that are in your area. You can become comfortable with one that satisfies your needs.

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7. wolfman | October 25, 2009 at 5:43 am |

   same concept
   different techniques
   you can have a black belt in as many arts as you’d like

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8. jamalevans16 | October 25, 2009 at 6:40 am |

   some martial arts like MMA (mixed martial arts) you have to know all types of martial arts such as judo, boxing, taekwondo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, full contact karate and kick boxing. lots of guys who practice in MMA know two or more of these martial arts and they don’t conflict with each other they make them a lot stronger and faster. I have personally never heard of anyone knowing Kung Fu and Tai chi or Karate and Xingyiquan but it is possible. you just have to train yourself hard and practice alot. The only way these martial arts could conflict is if you let them. Also if you are serious about learning one of these martial arts go to the country or find someone who has trained a long time in the sport.

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9. Bluto Blutarsky51 | October 25, 2009 at 7:40 am |

   you should cross train no matter what you do.

   if your teacher doesn’t let you then your problem should be with your teacher.

   I can understand a teacher not wanting you to spread yourself too thin so that you don’t have adequate time to devote to any art, but that is usually not what we are talking about here.

   most times the teacher wants to cove rup his own teaching’s shortcomings because he knows he hasn’t taught you to really be able to protect yourself because he: 1- doesn’t know himself, or 2- he knows it doesn’t work but doesn’t want to give up his livelyhood and admit that perhaps the training he learned from his teacher and is now passing on to you doesn’t work.

   and FYI tai chi and xingyiquan are forms of “kung fu” which is a slang term usually meant to mean “chinese martial arts”. Technically the term kung fu relates to any sort of hard work, martial or not. So technically carpentry is a form of kung fu.

   karate likewise refers to a number of okinawan japanese styles.

   It probably would be a mistake to take up three styles at once in the beginning, focus on one thing and maybe play with some friends who take the others here and there and then move on and start another after a couple of months. dependign on your free time and grasp of the system.

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10. Tao J | October 25, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    You can train in multiple arts, but in practice you’ll see some conflicts in basic philosophy. Take what you need from each art that you study and you’ll grow as a martial artist.

    One example of dissonant arts is Silat vs. Wing Chun –

    In Kali/Silat your objective is to destroy the obstacle (fist, arm, elbow) in order to get at the target (head/body). You use angled attacks and strike your opponent’s bicep, use your elbow to strike his punch,etc. Essentially you are smashing whatever tools your opponent has in order to reach his head/neck/body. A kali/silat artist moves side-to-side and forward outside the opponent’s strikes in order to get to the target.

    In Wing Chun your objective is to immobilize or move the same obstacles in order to achieve your strike. You will learn to block, grab, pull, and trap his fist/arm/foot. Once your opponents tools are removed in this manner, you deliver your blow. Also Wing Chun is a “linear” striking art. In other words you go forward to the center of the opponent, removing obstacles that are between your tool (fist/foot) and your target.

    Each art can be learned by the same person, even though the principles are totally at odds. Your job as a martial artist is to utilize the concepts to your greatest advantage in a given situation.

    I use Kali/Silat and Wing Chun because these are 2 of the arts that Bruce Lee incorporated into his “Jun Fan Jeet Kun Do”. They can be used together effectively despite their core principles being totally different.

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11. Sensei | October 25, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    Taichi and Xing yi are arts from the same foundation. Chances are that one who teaches Taichi may also teach Xing Yi.

    Karate came from a synthesis of the original grappling art of Okinawa called “ti” and influence from Chinese martial arts from Fukien province.

    I teach Okinawan karate – or as I call it by it’s old name – Toudijutsu, but I am also learning White Crane fist and Five Ancestor fist.

    I also learned Sun Lu Tang Style Xing Yi and Yi Chuan.

    So, yes you can… but it can get very expensive.

    (It seems that there are a bunch of “martialarm” salesmen who have made their way into the forum… isn’t that a violation?)

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12. dzpmantis | October 25, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Yes, you certainly can cross train in any martial arts you choose. But there will be some that will hinder your improvement in both if you try to learn them at the same time. For instance, if you are training in a soft Kung Fu art and a hard Karate art, then you may have problems fully understanding both systems. They are both quality MA’s, but in very different ways. Choosing styles that compliment each other is the best choice. IE, Kung fu and Tai Chi work very well together.

    But if you were really motivated, you could learn every major MA out there. I would suggest though that you would benefit more if you learned them one at a time, so that they do not conflict each other while you are learning them.

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13. JOSEPH H | October 25, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    what about this – it may help. I found my training improved on every occasion I added one or two martial arts training. try the martialarm http://www.myspace.com/martialarmI had given up on my karate training a few years ago, I was just too busy. I had always regretted it but when we began to use your training machine I really got excited. Now I am back in the Dojo and we have martial arms set up on the walls. P.Mc Millon

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