If you have a good Taiji instructor he/she will show you how the movements are applied to combat situations. However, it is mostly used for its health benefits because applying taiji to combat situations requires expertise, years of practice. You don’t see people using taiji in mma or real fighting because only young people get into fights, and by the time you get a good grasp of how taiji really works, you’re an old man!
BUT how would this go along with other fighting styles?
I like how this style practices, it looks relaxing, and it looks like a great way to work on balance..
HOWEVER, after reading your comment, I will have to keep taking karate, if I get into this. Because I am gaining confidence that I can use my karate in real life situations..
why not take a real fighting style, like any of the combat sports. which start working in real life situations the day you take them because they actually fucking work.
But cant you see that combat sport fighting is not used for real life situations. Martial Arts is not used to hurt people, martial arts was created to stop fighting and find the meaning of life.
Actually, tai chi was used successfully against a number of Shaolin monks by its creator, as Tai Chi is essentially an internal, defensive art, that uses the opponent’s strength against them. As all arts, it has its advantages and disadvantages; since it is not a full contact art, it doesn’t entail straining training sessions and is good for all ages.
there is no verification that tai chi was ever used successfully. nor is there any verification that the shaolin monks could fight h2h either. tall tales and legends of an art that probably looked nothing like the artsy crap practiced today. its funny that tai chi stopped working when verified fight records and cameras came on the scene. almost as suspicious as claims that all good tai chi fighters refuse to ever fight.
heres a hint, fighting is full contact, real martial arts are too
do you suburban wannabes really think some old lady who practices these slow motion stances and gestures can actually defend herself despite her complete inexperience with basic punching? a style that drills unrealistically deep stances for months before basic striking?!?! seriously!?
this looks like interpretive dance.
you believe in this shit without ever seeing it work. your blind followers because you want to cling to some fantasy instilled by cheap kung fu movies
for many time i ve practice kung fu and san-da (san-shou)…now i practice taiji…is simply another way to feel the body….maybe you must ask other to yourself about the taiji….thake a deep breath and relax!!
ps. i m not english…so…sorry for my english
^v^ *shrug* Maybe someone should challenge Sifu Jesse Tsao, then we’d know. I personally find it useful and enjoyable, and have successfully defended myself with the Fan Kata (wooden, mind you). Your Millage may vary! Please don’t use words like ‘real’ when only stating an opinion.
no one has to challenge anyone. if any practitioner from your style wants to prove themselves, there are competitions all over the world with rulesets that vary greatly, including absolutely no rules whatsoever. so far no one has ever used tai chi successfully
by real martial arts, i mean those that actually fight, or even those that spar hard. since martial arts are used to teach martial skills, i find this absolutely necessary to consider an art real
I guess it mainly depends on what your personal fighting style is like. Sounds like you prefer hard styles with quick, direct punches and kicks. That’s why you have such a problem with this style, as it’s a soft style, much like Aikido.
As for the competitions, people who have progressed far enough in Tai Chi to compete globally probably no longer feel the need to do so, due to the “spiritual” aspects of the style.
As for your complaint about it’s combat effectiveness, I possess a training manual where it breaks down the moves into four levels of response due to threat assessment.
Anything beyond level one involves a trip to the hospital. : )
nicerebound, i suggest that if tai-chi bothers you so much, you don’t watch the videos. you have argued for quite a few days. maybe you should do something more productive with your time, like getting a life.
A closed wooden fan packs a whollop if you also know shiatsu and tuina. With TaiChi alone you can; Disarm with a diagonally fly, pivot quickly and jab into the back of the knee with a Nuozha Searches the Sea. Step back quickly because your opponent will lose balance. Run like hell ^v^
Full Contact arts are beautiful too; I have a great love for karate and kenjitsu, even though I don’t practice them myself. I still find the spiritual aspect of Tai chi more conductive to what I need from the art.
Also, I would like to thank you. Even if you don’t agree with me, I enjoyed your discussion and conversation, as you respected my views while illustrating yours. I appreciate it.
The thing about Tai Chi that is usually misleading is that the forms are performed very slowly during practice; in reality, during real life situations, the slow practice enables you to read your opponent better, and engrain the form into your own body. Your body does the kata, not your mind. Also; have you read the Bushido? It’s such a lovely book that serves as guide-line to the practicing artist. I think you would enjoy it!
Also, calling us wannabes may be a bit below the belt, don’t you think? If great masters of the different arts hold great respect for one another, then I’m sure we humble practicers can see the advantages and disadvantages in each other’s forms, and respect them too. Having different opinions doesn’t make us lesser persons to each other. No one person knows all ^v^
actually some do: there are different styles of tai chi, some are always slow, but chen style is more dynamic (i.e. changes between slow and some lashing/ whipping motions).
If you have a good Taiji instructor he/she will show you how the movements are applied to combat situations. However, it is mostly used for its health benefits because applying taiji to combat situations requires expertise, years of practice. You don’t see people using taiji in mma or real fighting because only young people get into fights, and by the time you get a good grasp of how taiji really works, you’re an old man!
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this is a nice video, a nice performance and a great personality
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the old man excuse ha ha ha
‘by the time you can actually use your martial art, you are too old to use your martial art’
excuse after excuse is all you trad. artists can offer.
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let me ask you something…if people are always too old to fight once they learn to fight with tai chi, then how does anybody know it works?
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I would LOVE to take tai chi..
ATM I am taking a style of karate… I like it also, however I like how this excersize looks..
I would also like to take yoga, however I don’t know where I could take tai chi..
Hopefully bemidji state university offers it..
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Okay then.. I could buy into that a little bit..
BUT how would this go along with other fighting styles?
I like how this style practices, it looks relaxing, and it looks like a great way to work on balance..
HOWEVER, after reading your comment, I will have to keep taking karate, if I get into this. Because I am gaining confidence that I can use my karate in real life situations..
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why not take a real fighting style, like any of the combat sports. which start working in real life situations the day you take them because they actually fucking work.
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Exquisite
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But cant you see that combat sport fighting is not used for real life situations. Martial Arts is not used to hurt people, martial arts was created to stop fighting and find the meaning of life.
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Jiang Jian-ye
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Actually, tai chi was used successfully against a number of Shaolin monks by its creator, as Tai Chi is essentially an internal, defensive art, that uses the opponent’s strength against them. As all arts, it has its advantages and disadvantages; since it is not a full contact art, it doesn’t entail straining training sessions and is good for all ages.
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there is no verification that tai chi was ever used successfully. nor is there any verification that the shaolin monks could fight h2h either. tall tales and legends of an art that probably looked nothing like the artsy crap practiced today. its funny that tai chi stopped working when verified fight records and cameras came on the scene. almost as suspicious as claims that all good tai chi fighters refuse to ever fight.
heres a hint, fighting is full contact, real martial arts are too
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do you suburban wannabes really think some old lady who practices these slow motion stances and gestures can actually defend herself despite her complete inexperience with basic punching? a style that drills unrealistically deep stances for months before basic striking?!?! seriously!?
this looks like interpretive dance.
you believe in this shit without ever seeing it work. your blind followers because you want to cling to some fantasy instilled by cheap kung fu movies
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for many time i ve practice kung fu and san-da (san-shou)…now i practice taiji…is simply another way to feel the body….maybe you must ask other to yourself about the taiji….thake a deep breath and relax!!
ps. i m not english…so…sorry for my english
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^v^ *shrug* Maybe someone should challenge Sifu Jesse Tsao, then we’d know. I personally find it useful and enjoyable, and have successfully defended myself with the Fan Kata (wooden, mind you). Your Millage may vary! Please don’t use words like ‘real’ when only stating an opinion.
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you defended yourself with a wooden fan?
no one has to challenge anyone. if any practitioner from your style wants to prove themselves, there are competitions all over the world with rulesets that vary greatly, including absolutely no rules whatsoever. so far no one has ever used tai chi successfully
by real martial arts, i mean those that actually fight, or even those that spar hard. since martial arts are used to teach martial skills, i find this absolutely necessary to consider an art real
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I guess it mainly depends on what your personal fighting style is like. Sounds like you prefer hard styles with quick, direct punches and kicks. That’s why you have such a problem with this style, as it’s a soft style, much like Aikido.
As for the competitions, people who have progressed far enough in Tai Chi to compete globally probably no longer feel the need to do so, due to the “spiritual” aspects of the style.
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As for your complaint about it’s combat effectiveness, I possess a training manual where it breaks down the moves into four levels of response due to threat assessment.
Anything beyond level one involves a trip to the hospital. : )
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nicerebound, i suggest that if tai-chi bothers you so much, you don’t watch the videos. you have argued for quite a few days. maybe you should do something more productive with your time, like getting a life.
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A closed wooden fan packs a whollop if you also know shiatsu and tuina. With TaiChi alone you can; Disarm with a diagonally fly, pivot quickly and jab into the back of the knee with a Nuozha Searches the Sea. Step back quickly because your opponent will lose balance. Run like hell ^v^
Full Contact arts are beautiful too; I have a great love for karate and kenjitsu, even though I don’t practice them myself. I still find the spiritual aspect of Tai chi more conductive to what I need from the art.
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Also, I would like to thank you. Even if you don’t agree with me, I enjoyed your discussion and conversation, as you respected my views while illustrating yours. I appreciate it.
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The thing about Tai Chi that is usually misleading is that the forms are performed very slowly during practice; in reality, during real life situations, the slow practice enables you to read your opponent better, and engrain the form into your own body. Your body does the kata, not your mind. Also; have you read the Bushido? It’s such a lovely book that serves as guide-line to the practicing artist. I think you would enjoy it!
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Also, calling us wannabes may be a bit below the belt, don’t you think? If great masters of the different arts hold great respect for one another, then I’m sure we humble practicers can see the advantages and disadvantages in each other’s forms, and respect them too. Having different opinions doesn’t make us lesser persons to each other. No one person knows all ^v^
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*laughs* that would defeat the point deary!
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actually some do: there are different styles of tai chi, some are always slow, but chen style is more dynamic (i.e. changes between slow and some lashing/ whipping motions).
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