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Wu Quanyuo learned from Yang Luchan and Yang Banhou starting in 1850. He was made Yang Banhou’s number 1 disciple. In 1870, Quanyuo was given permission by his teachers to take his own disciples and open his own school. That was also the year his son, Wu Jianquan, was born. Wu Jianquan grew up surrounded by Taijiquan masters of his age, among his friends were Yang Shaohou and Yang Chengfu.
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After the emperor abdicated in 1912, the Yang brothers and Jianquan opened the Beijing Physical Culture Institute to promote Taijiquan to the public in order to preserve traditional Chinese culture during a time of political instability and foreign oppression. Also accepting an invitation to teach there was the famous Sun Lutang, whose mastery of Xingyiquan and Baguazhang had a significant influence on the development of later Wu style.
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So, for 14 years Wu Jianquan, his sons Wu Gongyi, Wu Gongzao and his son-in-law Ma Yueliang, as well as Yang Shaohou, Yang Chengfu and Sun Lutang were all traning and teaching in the same place. None of them had identical forms. The most well documented of the group; Wu Jianquan, Sun Lutang and especially Yang Chengfu had forms which looked different from each other.
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Even Jianquan and his oldest son Gongyi’s forms were quite different. So, the students started to say, this style or that style, using the names of the people they were referencing.
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None of these masters had any problem with this. Good Taijiquan is good Taijiquan, no matter the emphasis. Only later students whose skills were inferior tried to create divisions by saying one “style” (always theirs) is better than another.
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Yeah, thank you for posting.
You cannot imagine my happiness. I learnt almost exactly this form 10 years ago. It was my first Tai Chi. Although I now practice daily Yang and Chen forms I LOVE this WU form for its sobriety which enables wonderful work with Chi. I’ll never leave it! I didn’t know that “my” form was so near from the origins of the style! Many thanks to my master too!
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Loyaute Thank you for explaining the history! I could not have said it any better.
There is no reason for anyone practicing Wu Style to be divisive as it is one happy family. The exeption are some of their rogue students who may make ridiculous claims of grandeur.
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so you say there is no reason for division, and in the same paragraph give a reason for division.
hmmm.
interesting.
says a lot.
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I know Wu style people from Shanghai, Hong Kong and Singapore/Malaysia. They are good students and nice people, an argument on youtube shouldn’t discourage folks from studying at any of these places.
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i don’t quite understand. this is the long form right? what is the long form that i hear about that apparently averages out to 45 minutes? cuz this one is done in 11 minutes. is madame wu just doing it a little faster? or the camera? or what? and is there any instructional videos or stuff on her long form?
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nvm
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Yeah, it is the long form, but she is doing it relatively quickly for demonstration purposes.
The speed is up to the practitioner, you can go faster or slower, and different speeds have different health benefits. In the winter, if you want a nice warming form, do 30-45 minutes. In summer, when you want to work on coordination and circulation, do a 20-10 minute form.
People even do forms faster than that, but it starts to look a little different, a “fast form”.
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There is no form in this style that takes 45 minutes, maybe 20 at most
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Well, that’s what the Wu family teachers taught me. Maybe modern teachers don’t want to be bothered. It’s up to you how fast you train it. If you don’t want to work your control and concentration, that’s your business. When I was younger, we would even do 1 hour forms! Wu Jianquan said “the slower the better.”
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really good, The short frameof this form makes it feel right and the Qi just flows from there…
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Does anybody know where else on youtube can I find this style of Wu? All the other Wu styles I find are different,but this is the one I am learning now. And is there anybody else learning this style also?
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I learned this one once a couple of years ago. I’m also looking for some refresher videos, but haven’t had much luck. I have a DVD of Grandmaster Leung Shum doing this, but it’s tough to watch because it’s not very well made.
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Yes! I’ve learned it the same way. We’d often do this form and it would take 30-40 minutes. People don’t have the patience for slow, internal training these days, do they?
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Not sure why my comments floated up to the top since I was replying to individuals, but one was meant for Loyaute and the other for JasonK2210.
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From what some “martial artist” have been spreading about taiji .
Chen being very explosive and long.
Yang being a simplified form of Chen
with jumps and hard soft movements.
Wu being simplest than the Yang Style.
Wu Yuxiang being compact and sturdy.
Sun being quick and dexterous in movements.
I believe that each system relied on the masters body frame , dexterity , martial skill and ingenious understanding of their usage of Taiji.
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I wouldn’t say Wu style is is simple. The long forms are quite complex, but the movements are smaller than Chen or Yang.
Also, the Wu style weapons forms tend to be longer and more complicated than in the other styles.
Of course, everyone is selling simplified short forms these days, but even the better ones are for wushu competitions and demos, not martial training.
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i m also practicing this style,although some of the movements aren’t just the same as his..just small details though..
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I can only partly agree.
The modern forms don´t have the traditional content anymore, that´s right, still a good master should be able to reintroduce the principles and neigong aspects into the forms.
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Wu Tang Clan aint nuttin ta fuck with! LoL. Qi is da shit yo!
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Thanks for posting this.
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